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What’s good, peoples. I know that it’s been a while since I’ve posted a real new entry, but I’ve been swamped trying to get everything set up in Chicago. So far, I’m really liking this city and, fortunately, I already had a lot of friends here, so it’s turning out to be a good transition after two weeks. The new job is going well and I’m happy to be on to a new challenge. The only downside of being in Chicago is the weather…oh my goodness, this city is colder than anything I’ve ever experienced. Before this past weekend, I don’t think the temperature had gotten higher than 30 degrees since my arrival. On Friday night, it was 14 degrees…can you believe that? And, I’ve been told that the “bad part of the winter” doesn’t come until January/February. I sure hope I can make it through this first Chi-town winter.
OK, on to today’s entry. The email below is a long one, so be prepared to take a break halfway through taking in this reader’s message. The gist of it is that the reader is an IT professional with hopes of getting into the GSB and he had a list of questions for me. As mentioned recently, super long lists of questions are tough for me because they take so much time and thought to respond to, but his email came in before I declared my preference against them. Plus, it took me forever and a day to hit him back, so I answered all of them. I feel terrible for taking so long to get back to him, but we’ll have to see if he found my responses helpful.
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DP wrote:
“I am an Indian and I work for a renowned software giant in the IT silicon valley of Asia, Bangalore. I am work as a Software Developer but I fear myself getting lost in the so-called technology-driven industry, though not able to figure out what makes this industry unique after almost more than a year. Additionally, I could not see myself near to what I want to do in my life-start my own company. The things probably I lag is the confidence and the network to rely on, where atleast I wont repent of trying after failing to come back banking on someone. So, the total full time work experience would be around 2 yrs 6 months+ by the time I get in to do my MBA next year, in case I get through. Apart from it, I worked for Motorola for another 5 months during my internship in Masters.
I did my Bachelors in Engineering in Comp. Sc. in 2004 and then worked for a small software teaching firm at my home town for almost a year before deciding on to do my Masters in IT in 2005-07 from one of the premier institutes of India. Though I scored 70.9% in my Bachelors (it was % marking system during our time in our university), I was among the 200-300 odd students who scored above 70% in the whole state (considering the 20000+ Engg. graduating every year alone from my state in India) and in the top 20 students of the whole batch of the college among all the Engg. streams of the college (though no proof in the form of certificates or so). In Masters, I got a CGPA of 3.41/4.00 and in one of the four terms, I scored full grade points to top the batch also. The same is during my school and high-school days. I was always among the top 10-15% of the whole batch in my colleges. Most importantly, I was also able to get a IEEE publication during my masters with my research team. So, academics is pretty OK sort with strengths in subjects like science and Maths.
About extra-curricular activities: I have been very active in the extra-curricular activities all throughout my life. I have not only participated in activities like Debates, Acting, Singing, Dancing but also have led the teams for organizing and planning major college and university events like Annual Functions and Senior Batch convocations. One of the most enthralling experience has been planning and organizing the Graduation Day function of my seniors during my masters right from scratch along with the Director and Registrar of the university and its value increases when eminent personalities like Mr. Narayana Murthy (founder and Chief Mentor of one of the biggest IT services giant, Infosys) and Mr. Nandan Nilekani (CEO of Infosys) were the guests of the event. I feel till date this job of about 1 month, I thoroughly enjoyed and that actually got the true interest of how to carry tasks from scratch. I was overwhelmed when our Director and Mr. Murthy acknowledged my small efforts by taking a snap alongside my parents during my convocation the following year during my graduation. I also founded the WebTeam and Entrepreneurship Cell team of my university during the masters apart from being the Vice-Chairman of the Computer Society of India, Students Branch of the local chapter during my Bachelors. The E-Cell eventually went on to become the part of the National Entrepreneurship Network in the same year. I was also highly active in NGO activities right from my schooling days, 1998 and probably, working for the cyclone-hit state in 1999, was the most satisfying job for me till date. Though my efforts were recognized, but I still felt the Indian bureaucracy could have done a better job that time. I have taken active as a part of that NGO for 6-7 years before I came in to do my masters. Though I was doing some efforts towards the child education during my masters time but after joining the sucking IT industry, it has come down to just to monetary helps now. The major reason being is I knew that time that I was happy and I was more open to sharing whatever I had but now I am depressed, frustrated with seeing LIFE going to nowhere and could not find enough motivation to extend a hand of hope to others when I am struggling with mine. I am also part of the company’s Employee Club, which looks into planning and organizing company events within the campus for FUN.
Why MBA? well, my answer to this: I credit it to basically my current environment where I am completely lost and hence, frustrated and depressed with the daily routine job of coming to office, writing some pre-determined code and then go back. I just can’t resist following rules all the time. I want to do something different. But at the same time, I feel with strong instincts of having my own business own day, I would like to do my MBA from a top university. Another good reason being is: I feel that my failed attempts of forming a group to go for a new venture after my studies was due to wrong people around, who were more job-oriented rather than trying something different and get their hands dirty and messy. Its not that I did not initiate anything. I did, in fact, but failed to actually build on it. The example was when I along with a group of students tried to actually take up a course, drastically different and taken only by us, till date in the whole university, though eventually we failed to accomplish the final desired results but not before solving a big problem around it. The major reason being is the team was not completely motivated and was not willing to take risks at the right moment of time. Now, with a good MBA univ, I want to form a small team of like-minded guys who can dare to dream and then most importantly, believe in their individual dreams to follow them to make a COMMON DREAM become REALITY.
I have varied interests also like currently, I am writing my first movie script along with a very dear friend of mine, to try a hand at movies too in future but I do that basically for fun and I love it.
GMAT: I have not taken GMAT yet and will be taking it in November and thus, obviously will be trying to put on my applications for the second round. I do expect a decent score of 700+. I am confident in Maths but I struggle a bit in English, which I feel in due time I will be able to pick it up.
I visited USA last year and was there for almost 3 months in the Silicon Valley and thus, happened to visit Stanford for about 4-5 times and thus, have developed an emotional attachment to it and thats the reason I guess when I decided to go for either Stanford or Harvard, the answer always seems to be ONLY and ONLY STANFORD. Though, I am not sure how strong is my candidacy, but I want to go for it with all arms loaded. The only drawback could be the the timing of the application-2nd Round.
I completely understand that “You are not a part of the Admissions Committee and these would be just your suggestions”, as you repeat this statements in your blog again and again. So, trust me even your help is going to be the guidelines for me, which may help me deciding my course of action and approach to the elite B-Schools.
So, here are my questions:
1. Recommendations: What is the approach to go to the Boss, when there is a high possibility of a negative impact on your job afterwards, especially when one knows the person is a bit close-minded person? This question becomes very important as most of the Univ. ask one of the recommendations from the direct reporting manager, preferably.
2. Being with this profile, what is your sincere OPINION of my chances at STANFORD in the R2?
3. I have financial constraints and so, I will be definitely looking towards the AID and probably, a job later on after my MBA to wind up the LOANS as dollars can match only dollars. So, not sure of this due to strict visa regulations and the current market trends. Though I am in the highest bracket of the earning guys in a job of my age and educational background in India, but its a very meagre amount in terms of dollars. What’s your take on the possibility of getting aids, in case got admitted in the 2nd round.
4. I understand you have stopped taking up review of application essays, but if you feel I could be a potential candidate, can you do that again for me, for which I will be highly grateful to you. I have already started forming ideas for the essays for few Univ., including STANFORD.
5. Any additional suggestions?
6. Any further tips for a good and decent GMAT score? What should be the ideal score target for a guy with a profile as of mine to target STANFORD?
Waiting for your valuable guidance…
DP”
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DP,
What’s going on, man. I need to start by apologizing for taking so long to respond to your message. I’ve been ridiculously busy for a while now and I’m just now getting to my emails that came in back in September. Second, I HAVE to say something about your message…you might have just set the record for the longest email I’ve received in five years of writing my blog. I don’t know how long it took you to write it, but it sure did take me a long time to read it. I can tell from your email that you feel a connection with Stanford GSB, so I hope you can put together a strong application. I hope this email isn’t getting to you too late to be of use as you’re putting together your application package.
Recently, you might have seen one of my recent entries where I said that I wouldn’t respond to long lists of questions and you asked a LOT of questions here. Since your email came in before that recent entry, I decided to hit each of the questions. Plus, with the time you took to write all that text, I figure that I can take a little extra time than I’d usually allocate for a reply. Here we go…
1. Recommendations: What is the approach to go to the Boss, when there is a high possibility of a negative impact on your job afterwards, especially when one knows the person is a bit close-minded person? This question becomes very important as most of the Univ. ask one of the recommendations from the direct reporting manager, preferably. —> Awwww shoot, I really wish I’d gotten to your email earlier because I’ve got a good tip for this one but it might be too late for it to be useful. But, before getting to that, I would advise you to not assue that your boss is close-minded. He/she may appear that way in a work context, but that might be the mindset he/she has adopted to get the job done. If you were to ask for his/her help in getting into business school, you might end up pleasantly surprised with the response. OK, now to my tip…I would recommend that you do your best to establish a “mentor” relationship with your boss in preparation for requesting the reco. I put that in quotes because it won’t be a full-on mentorship situation in the traditional sense. What I’m referring to is for you to build the sort of relationship where you’re comfortable asking your boss for advice and counsel on issues that matter. In the course of that, you could discuss your long-term career goals and ask for his/her advice on how to best reach those goals. Establishing this sort of groundwork is a great way to lead into the “will you write a recommendation?” conversation. At that point, the conversation would begin with you discussing your roadmap toward your future goals and bringing up the idea of you going to business school. You could discuss your reasons for wanting an MBA, ask for your boss’ input/advice on it, and then ask him/her to be a part of MBA mission by writing a recommendation for you. Taking this approach sends the message of “I would like your help in achieving my career goals and would be honored if you’d write a reco”, not “I hate this job and I’m applying to business school to get away from it and, most of all, YOU”. It’s amazing how much something as simple as making someone seem important and valued can affect their outlook and mindset when it comes to you.
2. Being with this profile, what is your sincere OPINION of my chances at STANFORD in the R2? —> Well, since you understand that this is only my opinion, then I have no problem giving it. From what you’ve told me, you seem like a good candidate to apply to a top business school and, if you can tell your story well, you could have a decent shot of getting into the GSB. It looks like you’ve got solid academics, great extracurriculars, and OK work experience, but you do still have to knock out the GMAT, get some good recommendations, and write those essays. I really want to emphasize the impact your essays will have because that will be the admissions committee’s main window into who you are as a candidate and why you want an MBA. Just a word of advice…PLEASE think of a better way to tell your “why MBA” story than you did in your email above. Based on your email, it seems like you want to go to B-school because you feel that you made the wrong choice in going into IT, don’t like to follow other people’s rules, and couldn’t get a group together to start a new venture after your Master’s program. All of those things may be true, but you have to dress your story up better than that. If I’ve misread any of that, then you might want to think about the way you’re communicating it when you write your essays. And, as for applying in round 2, I’ve always heard that there isn’t a disadvantage to applying in that group, so don’t let that worry you. If you were looking at round 3, you’d be fighting an uphill battle, but round 2 isn’t a killer for your chances.
3. I have financial constraints and so, I will be definitely looking towards the AID and probably, a job later on after my MBA to wind up the LOANS as dollars can match only dollars. So, not sure of this due to strict visa regulations and the current market trends. Though I am in the highest bracket of the earning guys in a job of my age and educational background in India, but its a very meagre amount in terms of dollars. What’s your take on the possibility of getting aids, in case got admitted in the 2nd round. —> I know that Stanford offer need-based financial aid to admitted applicants, so, if you get in, you’d likely get as much as the Financial Aid office determines that you need. I never talked to any of my international classmates about the structure of their aid packages because I felt that was a personal thing and way out of bounds for me. With the current state of the credit markets, your bigger concern shouldbe about the rate on your loans. I’m not sure if there’s anything you can do now to get a lower rate, but you might want to talk to some of your associates who studied in the US for advice on that.
4. I understand you have stopped taking up review of application essays, but if you feel I could be a potential candidate, can you do that again for me, for which I will be highly grateful to you. I have already started forming ideas for the essays for few Univ., including STANFORD. —> Come on, pimpin’…you know I can’t do that. If I were to do it for you, then I’d have to do it for everyone. [NOTE: Knowing that I’ve stated several times that I’m not willing to do this, I’m somewhat taken aback that you would make this request anyway, actually to the point of being a little offended. Step into my shoes and ask yourself how you’d think about it…you give your time by responding to emails and all you expect is for people to respect the boundaries you put out there. Then, you get an email from someone ignoring those boundaries. Need I say more? ]
5. Any additional suggestions? —> Well, I’ve actually got lots of additional suggestions and they’re pretty well laid out across years worth of entries on my blog. And, I’m not being facetious with this statement either. It sounds like you might have read the archived entries and, not to pat myself on the back, but there’s a goldmine of MBA application tips sprinkled in those archives. At a high level, I’d advise you focus on three things as you put together your application:
a. Your MBA application positioning, which includes the way you describe your background, experiences, and desire for an MBA
b. Writing some GREAT application essays
c. RELAXING a little — you seem to be really stressing yourself out over this and, while it is important, nothing is worth sacrificing your sanity
6. Any further tips for a good and decent GMAT score? What should be the ideal score target for a guy with a profile as of mine to target STANFORD? —> I don’t know if there’s an “ideal score target” for a person targeting Stanford. As far as I know, the admissions people truly look at each candidate as a total package and not just as a single GMAT score. My advice would be to do the best that you can and, once you’ve done that, focus on the rest of your application. I don’t have any specific tips on getting a good score except to buckel down and study hard for it. For some people, that means taking a GMAT course and, for others like me, that means buying a good GMAT prep book. Mastering the GMAT is all about being as prepared as possible for the questions you’ll face and putting in the time to study is the only way to do that.
I hope the answers that I’ve provided above are helpful as you think about applying to business school. It sounds like you REALLY want to get into Stanford, so I hope it works out for you. Take care and good luck on your business school applications.
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Source: http://marquisweblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/responses-to-applicant-with-questions.html